2018 Illinois Governor’s Race Forum: Democratic Candidates

2018 Illinois Governor’s Race Forum: Democratic Candidates


>>GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO “CHICAGO TONIGHT.”
ON THIS WEDNESDAY MARCH 14TH. THE TOP THREE DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR IN THEIR FINAL MEETING BEFORE TUESDAY’S
PRIMARY. HEAR WHAT THEY THINK SETS THEM
APART AND WHY THEY DESERVE YOUR VOTE.
THAT IS NEXT ON “CHICAGO TONIGHT.”>>THANK YOU FOR JOINING US I’M
PHIL PONCE. WITH LESS THAN A WEEK UNTIL THE
PRIMARY ELECTION, THE DEMOCRATIC RACE FOR GOVERNOR IS A
JUGGERNAUT OF ACTIVITY. ENDORSEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS
ARE ROLLING IN AND CANDIDATES ARE NO DOUBT THINKING ABOUT HOW
THEY WOULD TAKE ON A REPUBLICAN OPPONENT IN NOVEMBER AND WHAT
THEY WILL DO NEXT IF THEY DO NOT MAKE THE CUT ON TUESDAY.
BUT TUESDAY IS DAYS AWAY AND THE CAMPAIGN IS FAR FROM OVER.
JOINING US FOR THEIR FINAL CANDIDATE FORUM IN THE ORDER
THEY APPEAR ON THE BALLOT ARE: J.B. PRITZKER HE IS A
BUSINESSMAN AND VENTURE CAPITALIST WHO HELPED CREATE
1871.>>>CHRIS KENNEDY FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE MERCHANDISE MART AND FORMER CHAIR OF THE
ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
>>>AND DANIEL BISS STATE SENATOR FROM EVANSTON AND FORMER
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO MATH PROFESSOR AND JOINED BY MEMBERS
OF THE CITY CLUB OF CHICAGO AND GUESTS AND THANKS TO HELPING TO
UNDERWRITE THIS FORUM AND WELL KEMP TO THE VIEWERS ON
Facebook AND TV AND RADIO STATIONS ACROSS ILLINOIS.
AND YOU CAN JOIN THE CONVERSATION USING TWITTER.
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J.B. PRITZKER, CHRIS KENNEDY AND DANIEL BISS.
PLAUS [APPLAUSE]
>>J.B. PRITZKER, THIS MORNING THE TRIBUNE PUBLISHED A DETAILED
STORY ABOUT THE TRUSTS AND COMPANIES YOU EITHER HOLD OR ARE
CONNECTED WITH OVERSEAS. IS THE MAIN BENEFIT OF HOLDING
MONEY OVERSEAS TO LOWER YOUR U.S. TAX BILL?
>>WELL, REMEMBER THERE’S NOTHING NEW IN THAT STORY IN THE
“CHICAGO TRIBUNE”. I HAVE SAID THERE WERE TRUSTS
CREATED GENERATIONS AGO. I DO NOT RECEIVE DISTRIBUTIONS
FROM THE TRUSTS AND ALL OF THE DISTRIBUTIONS GO TO CHARITY.
AND ON MY STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTERESTS, ALL OF THE ASSETS
THAT ARE OWNED BY THE TRUSTS AND ME INDIVIDUALLY AND OUR
CHARITABLE FOUNDATION ARE LISTED AND THAT IS HOW THE TRIBUNE WAS
ABLE TO REPORT ON IT.>>YOU MAKE A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN TRUSTS AND COMPANIES. BECAUSE THE TRIBUNE REPORTS THAT
AT LEAST 11 OFFSHORE COMPANIES WITH TIES TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY
MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SETUP IN THE PAST 10 YEARS AND PREVIOUSLY YOU
SAID YOUR OFFSHORE HOLDINGS WERE SETUP BY YOUR GRANDFATHER
DECADES AGO. WAS THAT A LIE?
>>IN FACT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE TRUSTS THE ENTITIES
CREATED LIKE ALL TRUSTS THEY MAKE INVESTMENTS AND CREATED BY
THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THE TRUSTS.
AND REMEMBER THE TRUSTS ARE FOCUSED ON CHARITABLE GIVING SO
ANY DISTRIBUTIONS MADE GO ENTIRELY TO CHARITY.
>>HOLDINGS OVERSEAS CONNECTED WITH THE TRIBUNE, AND THE TRUSTS
AND THE COMPANIES BECAUSE THE TRIBUNE SAYS AT LEAST 11
COMPANIES CONNECTED WITH YOU OR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SETUP
WITHIN THE PAST 10 YEARS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>>NOT SETUP BE ME NO.>>DO YOU HAVE ANY CONNECTION
WITH THEM IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL INTERESTS?
COULD YOU HAVE FINANCIAL INTERESTS CONNECTED WITH THE 11
COMPANIES THE TRIBUNE SAYS HAVE BEEN SETUP IN THE PAST 10 YEARS?
>>NO, THE TRUSTS. AND THE COMPANIES UNDERLYING THE
TRUSTS AND THE TRUSTEES CREATED THE COMPANIES TO MAKE
INVESTMENTS THAT IS WHAT TRUSTS DO AND THE DISTRIBUTIONS GO TO
CHARITY.>>THERE IS NO CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE COMPANIES THAT THE TRIBUNE ELUDED TO AND THE
TRUSTS?>>WELL IN MY STATEMENT OF
ECONOMIC INTEREST EVERY UNDERLYING ASSET IS LISTED.
AND SO AS THEY SAY IN THE TRIBUNE, IN FACT, THOSE ASSETS
ARE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR REMEMBER IN THE
STATEMENTS, IS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
AND SO WHEN YOU LIST EVERY SINGLE ASSET IT’S KNOWN TO THE
PUBLIC IF YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS.
AND I WOULD MAKE SURE THERE WILL BE NO CONFLICTS WHEN I BECOME
GOVERNOR.>>DANIEL BISS YOU ARE SHAKING
YOUR HEAD, HOW COME?>>WE HEARD THIS UNBELIEVABLE
MESS OF SALAD THAT WE LEARNED NOTHING TO DISTRACT US FROM
READING THE TRIBUNE. J.B. PRITZKER SETUP COMPANIES
OFFSHORE TO AVOID TAXES AND SPENT THE ENTIRE LAST YEAR LYING
ABOUT IT. DONALD TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT.
DO WE WANT THIS AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR?
11 MONTHS AGO TODAY, I RELEASED MY TAX RETURNS AND ASKED THEM TO
DO THE SAME AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD THEY WERE LYING NOW WE
KNOW WHAT PART OF J.B. PRITZKER HAS BEEN LYING.
>>YOUR REACTION TO J.B. PRITZKER’S STATEMENTS?
>>THIS IS WHAT I SAY. I THINK THIS FORUM IS PART OF
THE ELECTION PROCESS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS AND THAT
PROCESS IS SORT OF LIKE A JOB INTERVIEW.
WE’RE INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB TO BE THE NEXT GOVERNOR OF THE
STATE OF ILLINOIS TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS TO WORK
FOR THE VOTERS OF ILLINOIS. I’VE HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I
CAN TELL YOU JUST ONE PIECE OF ADVICE TO THE VOTERS OF THE
STATE. YOU SHOULD NEVER HIRE SOMEONE
WHO LIES TO YOU DURING A JOB INTERVIEW.
IF THEY LIE TO YOU TO GET THE JOB THEY WILL LIE TO YOU TO KEEP
THE JOB AND YOU DO NOT WANT A LIAR AS THE GOVERNOR OF THE
STATE OF ILLINOIS TRYING TO KEEP THAT JOB.
>>J.B. PRITZKER ARE YOU LYING?>>MAY I RESPOND.
THANK YOU.>>PLEASE DO.
>>LET ME SAY THIS: BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS ARE ON THE ATTACK WE
ARE IN THE LAST FIVE DAYS OF A CAMPAIGN.
IT’S CLEAR THEY ARE BEHIND AND THIS IS HOW THEY INTEND TO RUN
OF THE REST OF THE CAMPAIGN AND THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING IT THIS
WAY ALL ALONG, NEGATIVELY. THE TRUTH IS THAT I AM TRYING TO
RUN A CAMPAIGN ABOUT ISSUES. AND FOR THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ALL
THE WAY UP UNTIL JANUARY WE WERE ALL ABOUT ISSUES IN THIS
CAMPAIGN. AND THEN WHO WENT ON THE ATTACK?
BRUCE RAUNER AND DANIEL BISS AND CHRIS KENNEDY THEY WENT UP ON
THE AIR FIRST. AND I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT FOR PEOPLE THAT THESE ATTACKS ARE AN AVOIDANCE OF
THEIR OWN RECORDS THEY NEED TO ANSWER FOR THEIR VOTING RECORDS
AND THEIR RECORD OF FAILED ACCOMPLISHMENT OR JUST UTTER OUT
RIGHT FAILURE.>>LET’S STAY WITH THE TRIBUNE
REPORT A BIT LONGER BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
DISCLOSURE SO ONE CAN ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT ONE HAS CON FLIBS
OF INTEREST. ONE OF THE OFFSHORE COMPANIES IS
MORROW CAPITAL HOLDING WHAT WANTS TO BUY CITY LAND TO OFFER
DUCK BOAT TOURS AND YOU OWN ALL THE STOCK IN THAT COMPANY.
IS THAT CORRECT?>>NO.
THE ENTITY BY THE WAY THAT IS LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS IN THE
CITY OF CHICAGO IS IN FACT LISTED ON THAT STATEMENT OF
ECONOMIC INTEREST.>>WHAT IS THAT ENTITY?
MORROW.>>NO, CALLED ENTERTAINMENT
CRUISES. THERE ARE NO SHELL COMPANIES.
ENTERTAINMENT CRUISES IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT
OPERATES BOATS ON NAVY PIER AND DOES SEA WORTHY VENTURES.
AND IT’S LISTED ON THE STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST.
>>I WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOU AND I DO NOT MEAN TO OVERSTATE THE
CASE. BUT YOU ARE SAYING THE 11
COMPANIES ARE WHAT? NOT A RECENT CREATION IN THE
PAST 10 YEARS? THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED WITH THE
TRUSTS AND THEREFORE THEY ARE PART OF SOMETHING THAT WAS
ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND THEREFORE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT NO
ALL YOUR HOLDINGS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED YEARS AGO THAT IS
WHAT MAKES IT TRUTHFUL?>>PHIL, THOSE ENTITIES WERE NOT
CREATED BY ME. THEY WERE CREATED BY TRUSTS THAT
I DO NOT CONTROL. TRUSTS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO
CHARITABLE GIVING.>>LET’S —
CHRIS KENNEDY.>>LET’S RETURN TO THAT NOTION
WHO IS GOING NEGATIVE AND THE TRUTH IS THAT J.B. PRITZKER IS
SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS $250,000, $500,000 A DAY GOING
AFTER EITHER SENATOR BUSINESS OR ME.
AND THE TRUTH IS WHEN YOU CAN’T WIN BY TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT
YOURSELF IN A COMPETITION, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TRY TO
TELL LIES ABOUT YOUR COMPETITORS IN ORDER TO WIN AND THAT IS
EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING. LIES, LIES, LIES.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]>>GENTLEMEN HOLD ON.
>>IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARTICULATE THIS.
WE ARE IN THIS UNIQUE MOMENT IN AMERICA WITH VAST INCOME
INEQUALITY A FAILED BILLIONAIRE PRESIDENT AND GOVERNOR AND WE
ARE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT MODEL OF POLITICS THE DEMOCRATIC
SHOULD BELIEVE IN AND YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
THE GUYS THAT WANT TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND TRY TO
BUY AN ELECTION AND PRIT SPENT $53 MILLION SO FAR AND IT MUST
BE UPSETTING. YOU SPENT $63 MILLION OF YOUR
OWN MONEY AND YOU’RE TRYING TO PUMMEL EVERYONE ELSE.
I’M OFFERING A MIDDLE CLASS PROGRESSIVE WHO IS GOING TO
ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO WIN TUESDAY AND ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO VOTE AND
BEAT BRUCE RAUNER.>>YOU CAMPAIGNED AS A MIDDLE
CLASS CANDIDATE LOOKING OUT OF THE INTERESTS OF THE MIDDLE
CLASS AND CRITICAL OF YOUR OPPONENTS FOR THEIR WEALTH.
CAN SOMEBODY BE WEALTHY AND BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT?
>>ABSOLUTELY. I’M CRITICAL OF THE OPPONENTS
TRYING TO BUY THE ELECTION SAYING BRUCE RAUNER HAS SO MUCH
MONEY SO THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO TO SUCCEED IS TO FIND A
WEALTHIER PERSON TO SPEND MORE MONEY.
THAT IS TAKING OUR PARTY DOWN A DANGEROUS PATH.
WE SHOULD HAVE ELECTIONS NOT AUCTIONS.
>>LAST POINT ON THE TRIBUNE ARTICLE, CHRIS KENNEDY YOU WERE
NAMED IN THE TRIBUNE INVESTIGATION.
AS HAVING MONEY OFFSHORE. ARE OTHER TAXPAYERS PICKING UP
PART OF YOUR TAB?>>ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THE TRIBUNE IDENTIFIED A COMPANY THAT I HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN BUT
THAT COMPANY THAT HAS A SIMILAR NAME FILES IN THE UNITED STATES
EVERYONE, FILES WITH THE IRS, I PAY BOTH FEDERAL INCOME TAX AND
STATE INCOME TAX. HE HAS AVOIDED PAYING TAXES IN
THE UNITED STATES. THAT MEANS ALL OF US NOT THE
COST OF GOVERNMENT WENT DOWN, EVERY TAXPAYER IN THE UNITED
STATES NOW PAYS MORE IN INCOME TAX BECAUSE HE PAID LESS.
EVERY FILER IN ILLINOIS PAYS MORE INCOME TAX TO THE STATE OF
ILLINOIS BECAUSE HE PAID LESS LIKE ALL OF US WHO PAY PROPERTY
TAXES IN COOK COUNTY PAID MORE BECAUSE HE PAID LESS THROUGH THE
PROPERTY TAX CHEAT AND THAT IS HIS MODEL FOR MAKING MONEY.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]>>FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, IN THE
STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST ALL THE ASSETS ARE BEING
REPORTED AND I PUT OUT THE INFORMATION OVER THREE YEARS
THAT FEDERAL AND STATE TAXES PAID BY TRUSTS FOR MY BENEFIT
AND PERSONALLY $150 MILLION. THERE IS NO TAX AVOIDANCE ALL
THE ASSETS GOING TO CHARITY ARE GOING TO CHARITABLE AND ALL THE
ASSETS NOT CHARITABLE ARE PAYING HERE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS
THE HIGHEST RATE THAT YOU CAN PAY CORPORATE INCOME TAXES.
>>THE TAX AVOIDANCE INVOLVED IS HAS TO DO WITH CHARITABLE TRUSTS
WHICH ALL THE PROCEEDS ARE GOING TO CHARITY?
>>YOU ARE CALLING THAT TAX AVOIDANCE.
CHARITY IS CHARITY.>>AND YET, A CHARITABLE
FOUNDATION EVEN CHARITIES IF ONE IS A CHARITY IS TAKING AN
INCOME, NORMALLY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO TAXES WOULD IT NOT?
>>NO.>>LET ME QUICKLY IF I COULD,
PHIL, I APPRECIATE CHRIS THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE JB HAS
BEEN INVOLVED IN TAX AVOIDANCE BUT THE TRUTH IS WE DON’T KNOW.
WE DON’T KNOW BECAUSE HE WILL NOT RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS.
WHEN HE RIPS [INAUDIBLE] TO GET THE TAX BREAK THE REST OF
US PAY MORE THAT IS TRUE LIKE WHEN YOU USED POLITICALLY
CONNECTED TAX ATTORNEYS TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX BILL THE
REST OF US PAY MORE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE
OFFSHORE STRATEGIES WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY THROUGHOUT OF ALL OF
2016 ALL DEMOCRATS WERE SAYING, DUDE, DONALD TRUMP SHOULD
RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS. AND NOW HERE WE ARE IN 2018 AND
TWO OF THE THREE LEADING CANDIDATES ON THE GOVERNOR SIDE
WILL NOT. IT IS NOT OK.
>>YOU RELEASED THE PAGES OF ONE YEAR.
>>I’VE IDENTIFIED EVERY TRUST THAT I BENEFIT FROM AND EVERY
HOLDING THAT I OWN. ANY CONFLICT I MIGHT HAVE IS
LISTED IN THAT DISCLOSURE FORM. I WENT BEYOND WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRED AND WHILE Mr. BUSINESS TRIES TO MAKE AN ISSUE
OF THAT I’VE GONE FURTHER AND OTHERS AND SHOWN EVERY ENTITY
THAT MIGHT POSE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND I THINK THAT IS A GOOD MODEL FOR WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO IN THE
STATE. WHAT WE DON’T KNOW IS WHAT Mr.
PRITZKER IS HIDING AND THAT IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ALL OF US.
>>HOW ABOUT THAT, J.B. PRITZKER A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AN EXPERT
QUOTED IN THE ARTICLE SAYING THERE ARE TWO REASONS TO SETUP
TRUSTS OR COMPANIES OVERSEAS ONE IS TO AVOID TAX AND TWO IS TO
MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED IN TERMS OF FIGURING OUT WHO IS DOING
WHAT.>>I REMIND YOU THAT THE TRUSTS
WERE SETUP GENERATIONS AGO THEY WERE NOT SETUP BY ME AND
DEDICATED ENTIRELY TO CHARITIES.>>TRUSTS AND COMPANIES
COMPANIES RECENTLY CONNECTED TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
>>I DID NOT SETUP THOSE COMPANIES AND I DID NOT SETUP
THE TRUSTS THEY ARE TRYING TO REACH BACK YEARS AND YEARS
DECADES AND DECADES. AND IT’S JUST NOT CORRECT.
NOT ACCURATE.>>LET’S MOVE ON.
THERE WAS A NATIONWIDE STUDENT WALKOUT TODAY DANIEL BISS,
YOU’VE EXPRESSED GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION HOW WILL YOU
CONVINCE GUN OWNERS DOWN STATE THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GUT
THEIR QUOTE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS?
>>I WAS PROUD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WALKOUT TODAY.
OUT OF THE SENATE CHAMBER TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITOL AND WE
HAD A GOOD DAY IN THE LEGISLATURE TODAY PASSING THREE
COMMON SENSE GUN SAFETY BILLS OUT OF THE SENATE.
AND I THINK THAT SHOWS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, PHIL,
WE ARE SEEING A CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY.
THE NRA WHICH IS PRIMARILY LISTENING NOT TO GUN OWNERS BUT
TO GUN MANUFACTURERS WHO FUND THEM, IS STARTING TO LOSE ITS
GRIP BECAUSE OF ORGANIZERS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND WE ARE
STARTING TO BUILD A COALITION OF PEOPLE WHO TRADITIONALLY
SUPPORTED GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION WITH GUN OWNERS.
>>AND A LOT OF GUN OWNERS DOWN STATE BY VIRTUE OF THE
DIFFERENCE OF DEMOGRAPHICS AND INTERESTS, THE ATTEMPT TO
TIGHTEN THE STANDARDS ON GUN DEALERS AND SO FORTH WAITING
PERIODS IT ALL IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO DIMINISHING MY SECOND
AMENDMENT RIGHTS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT PERSON?
>>WHAT I SAY IS LET’S LOOK AT THE BILLS WE ARE PASSING.
AND THE IDEAS WE ARE DEBATING AND LET’S HAVE AN HONEST
CONVERSATION AND THERE WILL BE DISAGREEMENTS NOT EVERYONE
AGREES ABOUT EVERYTHING BUT THE SCARE TACTICS OF NRA THAT
PERSUADED GUN OWNERS WHO ARE OFTEN SUPPORTIVE OF COMMON SENSE
GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION TO OPPOSE CANDIDATES THAT OPPOSE THEIR
BILLS ARE STARTING TO WEAKEN. I HAVE A LIFETIME F RATING FROM
THEM. AND ONE OF THE FEW F’S I’M PROUD
OF AND MORE PEOPLE ARE PLEASED WITH THAT F RATING.
>>GENTLEMEN RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING
STATEMENT RAISING YOUR HANDS MEANS YES.
RAISE YOUR HAND: WOULD YOU SELL THE THOMPSON CENTER?
ONE OUT OF THREE. WOULD YOU SUPPORT RAISING THE
GAS TAX TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE?
NONE OUT OF THE THREE. WOULD YOU SUPPORT A CHICAGO
CASINO? RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YES.
ONE. WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE BILL TO
ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME IN ILLINOIS?
>>DO I GET TO SLEEP LATER OR DO I HAVE TO GET UP EARLY?
>>OK. I SEE.
NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT ONE.
RAISE YOUR HAND, WOULD YOU CLOSE CHICAGO STATE UNIVERSITY?
SOMEONE IS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS.
AND A VIEWER QUESTION FROM MARJORIE AND SHE ASKS CURRENTLY
ILLINOIS DOES NOT TAX SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT INCOME.
SHOULD IT, CHRIS KENNEDY?>>ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THE AVERAGE RETIREE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS MAKES ABOUT $18,000
A YEAR. WE SHOULD GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO
MAKE $18,000 A YEAR TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET WE SHOULD CLOSE THE
LOOPHOLE THAT ALLOWS INTERNET SELLERS TO SELL INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES WITHOUT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF SALES TAXES AND
PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO LIVE IN ANOTHER STATE BUT CONTINUE TO
WORK IN ILLINOIS AND MAKE MONEY HERE AND DO NOT PAY THEIR FAIR
SHARE OF INCOME TAX. THE STATE OF NEW YORK DOES THAT
AND THEY COLLECT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE STATE OF
COLORADO IS GOING AFTER THE INTERNET SELLERS.
AND LET’S GO AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THE STATE
AND CHEATING ON THE TAXES AND WE CAN BALANCE OUR BUDGET WITHOUT
GOING AFTER PEOPLE THAT MAKE $18,000 A YEAR.
AND JB YOU HAVE BEEN RUNNING ADS SAYING I’M IN FAVOR OF TAXING
RETIREMENT INCOME. IT’S NOT TRUE.
I’VE GONE TO FORUM AFTER FORUM LOOK AT ME I WANT TO LET YOU
KNOW I AM NOT FOR THAT. PLEASE STOP RUNNING THOSE LIES.
>>YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT POSITION TODAY THAN YOU HAVE DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE YOU, YES YOU, SAID SEVERAL TIMES YOU ARE OPEN
TO RETIREMENT TAXATION THAT IS A FACT.
IF YOU CHANGE YOUR POSITION THAT IS GOOD BECAUSE I AM OPPOSED TO
RETIREMENT TAXATION.>>SO YOU WILL TAKE THE ADS
DOWN?>>HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR
POSITION.>>CLARITITY RIGHT NOW.
I’VE TOLD YOU WHAT MY POSITION IS.
AND A GUY LIKE THAT WHO CAN LIE TO GET A JOB IS GOING TO LIE TO
KEEP IT. [ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>>LET THEM YELL AT EACH OTHER THAT IS FUN.
HERE IS THE ABOUT BOTTOM LINE IM AGAINST TAXING THE RETIREMENT.
AND BECAUSE HE IS SCARED OF HAVING TO DO THAT HE IS LYING
ABOUT MY POSITION.>>THAT IS NOT WHAT RETIREMENT
INCOME TAX IS. WE NEED A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX
SO WEALTHY PEOPLE PAY MORE AND WE PROTECT MIDDLE CLASS TO LOWER
THE TAX BILL BUT PENSIONS AND 401K’S AND SOCIAL SECURITY I DO
NOT THINK WE SHOULD BE TAXING THOSE.
>>AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS RAISED, I DO NOT MEAN TO CIRCLE
AROUND THE TRIBUNE ARTICLE BUT THE ASSERTION IS WITH YOUR
OVERSEAS HOLDING AND TRUSTS, COMPANIES AND HOWEVER YOU CALL
THEM AND IF THEY ARE BEING SHELTERED FOR TAX PURPOSES IS IT
HYPOCRITICAL TO CALL FOR A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX WHEREBY
OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME MEANS WOULD BE SHOULD BE TO HIGHER
TAXES WHEN YOU MIGHT BE SHELTERING SOME OF YOUR TAXES?
>>THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. PAYING TAXES HERE, THE FEDERAL,
STATE TAXES THE HIGHEST STATE RATE FOR ALL THE ASSETS HELD IN
TRUST FOR MY BENEFIT THAT I HAVE INVOLVEMENT WITH INCLUDING —
>>INCLUDING THE COMPANIES I’M HAZY ABOUT THAT.
>>INCLUDING THE COMPANIES. BUT REMEMBER.
>>THOSE COMPANY OVERSEAS ARE PAYING STATE AND FEDERAL TAXES?
>>YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERSEAS TRUSTS WHEN THE REALITY
THOSE ARE DEDICATED TO CHARITY AND ANY DISTRIBUTIONS THAT COME
FROM THOSE GO TO CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS.
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE COMPANIES IN THE UNITED
STATES COMPANIES WHEN THEY MAKE AN INCOME THEY PAY AN INCOME TAX
AND HERE IN ILLINOIS THOSE TRUSTS PAY AT THE HIGHEST RATE
AS DO THEY PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
>>THIS IS JUST EXPOSING THE FRAUD THAT IS THE J.B. PRITZKER
CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR. YOU’VE BEEN RUNNING SINCE YOU
REALIZED IT WAS POPULAR WHEN I SAID IT.
ON A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX. AND NOW WE’VE LEARNED THAT
YOU’VE BEEN AVOIDING TAXES IN ANYWAY POSSIBLE AND THE QUESTION
WE OUGHT TO BE ASKING OURSELVES IS NOT DO WE NEED A PROGRESSIVE
INCOME TAX? EVERY CANDIDATE IN MARCH OF
2018. THE QUESTION IS WHO IS GOING TO
DO IT? THE TWO GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN
BENEFITING FROM OUR BROKEN SYSTEM FOR DECADES?
OR THE PERSON FIGHTING FOR PROGRESSIVE LEGISLATION.
>>YOU VOTED FOR TAX BREAKS FOR CORPORATIONS, A MEASURE TO
REDUCE PENSION BENEFITS FOR STATE EMPLOYEES AND VOTED TO CUT
MEDICAID HEALTH SPENDING FOR THE POOR.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?>>I’M PROUD OF MY RECORD IN THE
LEGISLATURE. ON THINGS LIKE PENSIONS, I’VE
TALKED OPENLY ABOUT HOW I GOT INTO THE LEGISLATURE AND TRIED
TO TACKLE A DIFFICULT PROBLEM AND DID NOT GET IT RIGHT IN
2013. AND BY THE WAY AFTER J.B.
PRITZKER WAS ATTACKING ME FOR NOT VOTING FOR PENSION CHANGES
IN 2011 I TALKED ABOUT HOW I FELT AND HOW I LEARNED FROM THAT
AND INFORMED MY EFFORTS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN THE RIGHT WAY
WHICH IS WHAT A LEADER DOES. I’VE BEEN FIGHTING IN THE
LEGISLATURE TO LIFT UP THE LIVES OF ORDINARY PEOPLE AND FIGHTING
TO EXPAND HEALTHCARE AND FIGHTING TO PASS THE TOUGHEST
STUDENT LOAN BILL OF RIGHTS IN THE COUNTRY.
FIGHTING FOR A RETIREMENT SAVINGS BILL THAT IS CHANGING
RETIREMENT SECURITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY GIVING MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE A SHOT AT DIGNIFIED RETIREMENT.
>>I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO GRAPPLED WITH THE DIFFICULT
CHOICES THAT FACE SOMEONE IN POLITICS.
AND TWO WITH THE RECORD OF PASSING PROGRESSIVE LAWS.
>>PLEASE, COME ON YOU SPENT SEVEN YEARS DOWN THERE.
SEVEN YEARS DOWN THERE. HE FELL FOR SPRINGFIELD.
THAT IS WHAT HE SAID. I FELL FOR SPRINGFIELD AND NOW
HE WANTS US TO SEND HIM BACK AS THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE?
HE COULDN’T STAND UP FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT?
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY IN THE STATE SENATE AND
THE STATE HOUSE. CONTROLLED THE GOVERNOR’S
MANSION WHILE HE WAS THERE AND DID NOTHING TO FIX THE FUNDING
FOR OUR SCHOOLS DID NOTHING TO BRING ABOUT A PROGRESSIVE INCOME
TAX IN OUR STATE. HE IS PART OF A FAILED SYSTEM
AND IT’S TIME WE BRING CHANGE TO THE FUTURE OF ILLINOIS TO FUND
OUR SCHOOLS PROPERLY.>>AND YET BOTH YOU AND J.B.
PRITZKER NEITHER ONE OF YOU HAS HELD ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICE.
IS IT PRESUMPTUOUS OF YOU IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF YOUR
FINANCIAL ASSETS, ARE GOING FOR THE TOP OFFICE IN THE STATE?
WITHOUT HAVING SPENT TIME IN THE SENATE?
>>I PUT UP MY TRACK RECORD AGAINST ANYBODY.
I RAN THE MERCHANDISE MART ONE OF THE GREAT ECONOMIC ENGINES OF
THE WORLD. I WAS ELECTED CHAIRMAN OF THE
CONVENTION BUREAU. ELECTED CHAIRMAN BY MY
COLLEAGUES OF THE CHICAGO CONVENTION AND TOURISM BUREAU I
WAS 27, AND EMERGED AS THE LARGEST FOOD BANK IN THE UNITED
STATES. I WAS CHAIRMAN WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS WITH A $5.5 BILLION BUDGET AND I THINK
THAT PUTS ME IN GREAT QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE STATE’S
TOP JOB.>>J.B. PRITZKER?
NEVER HELD ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICE BEFORE.
PRESHUMCIOUS OF YOU TO GO FOR THE BRASS RING?
I’VE DONE BIG THINGS ACROSS THE STATE FOR WORKING FAMILIES.
IT’S J.B. PRITZKER GETTING POLICIES PASSED IN SPRINGFIELD
AND WASHINGTON D.C. ON BEHALF OF OUR MOST AT RISK KIDS TO MAKE
SURE THEY GET QUALITY PRESCHOOL AND CHILDCARE, 230 KIDS IN LOW
INCOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS GETTING SCHOOL BREAKFAST AND KIDS WHO
WOULD NOT GET BREAKFAST. CREATING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS
OF JOBS THROUGH THE CREATION OF 1871 HERE IN CHICAGO.
AND I THINK IT’S HYPOCRITICAL OF CHRIS KENNEDY WHO WAS THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, WHEN HE RAISED TUITION
FIVE TIMES, FIVE TIMES, AND CAUSED INSTATE STUDENTS TO LEAVE
THE STATE AFTER A 30% RISE IN TUITION AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN
ENROLLMENT GOING DOWN 17% THAT IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE HE HAS
DONE.>>IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE
BOARD OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS WHILE I WAS CHAIRMAN OF
THE BOARD YOU ARE TELLING ME FRANCIS CAROL TEAMED UP WITH JIM
MONTGOMERY AND RICK ESTRADA AND THE JUDGE HOLMES AND GOT
TOGETHER TO FIND A WAY TO PUSH MINORITIES OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY
OF ILLINOIS? THAT IS —
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] DURING THAT PERIOD WE PUT $100
MILLION ASIDE FOR SCHOLARSHIP MONEY AND PROUD THAT TODAY HALF
THE KIDS BENEFIT FROM THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS.
AND THE REASON THE MINORITY ENROLLMENT DECLINED AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, JB WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE GREAT
RECESSION AND I UNDERSTAND WITH YOUR $3 BILLION YOU MAY NOT HAVE
BEEN AWARE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD THIS COUNTRY WENT THROUGH
AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE WHERE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR
HOMES MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS AND MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE AND
IT DROVE ATTENDANCE AT THE UNIVERSITY.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]>>GARNISH PEOPLE’S WAGES
STRUGGLING TO PAY STUDENT LOANS. WHY DO YOU ENDWAJ IN THAT?
DANIEL BISS THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
THERE IS NOT SOMEONE — YOU NAMED ME WHICH IS PLEASANT.
THERE IS NO ONE IN SPRINGFIELD THAT HAS DONE ANOTHER STUDENT
LOAN BORROWERS. AND YES, I VOTED FOR LEGISLATION
THAT GAVE THE STATE COMMISSION THE SAME POWER THAT FEDERAL
STUDENT LOAN LENDERS HAVE SO THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO STOP
SUING THE STUDENTS. AND WHILE THEY FIGHT AGAINST
EACH OTHER LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
WE HAVE BRUCE RAUNER HE FAILED. WE HAVE DONALD TRUMP HE HAS
FAILED. WE’VE TRIED I’M A SUCCESSFUL
BUSINESSMAN TRUST ME UNRELATED TO GOVERNMENT IT HAS NOT WORKED.
NOW THEY ARE GOING TO PICK APART MY RECORD BILL BY BILL WHEN I AM
THE ONE WHO PASSED ALMOST 90 LAWS, LIFTING PEOPLE UP,
CREATING RETIREMENT SECURITY AND EXPANDING ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.
>>BRUTALLY GO AFTER THE RETIREMENT INCOMES FOR THE
PEOPLE IN THE STATE. NOTHING WORSE THAN WHAT YOU DID.
I’M NOT SORRY I’M NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU GO ON ABOUT YOUR
GREAT RECORD WHEN YOU WENT OFF VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THE STATE
AND I FELL FOR SPRINGFIELD. I’M SORRY THAT IS DISQUALIFIED.
>>DANIEL BISS.>>JB PUT OUT A VIDEO OF CHRIS
TALKING ABOUT HOW HE SUPPORTED THAT EFFORT AND JB WAS FUNDING A
MUCH MORE EXTREME GROUP YEARS BEFORE.
THE TRUTH IS THAT PENSIONS ARE A PROMISE AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE
LEGISLATURE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO FUND THE PENSIONS AND I AM
THE CANDIDATE FIGHTING FOR THE REVENUE SOLUTIONS THAT WILL
ENABLE US TO FUND THE PENSIONS.>>YOU PUT $63 MILLION OF YOUR
OWN MONEY. IF YOU LOSE HOW MUCH MONEY WILL
YOU PLEDGE TO DEFEAT GOVERNOR BRUCE RAUNER?
>>I’VE SUPPORTED DEMOCRATS MY WHOLE LIFE I HAVE BEEN A
DEMOCRAT MY WHOLE LIFE. MY PARENTS WERE DEMOCRATS AND
I’M PROUD TO SAY THAT WHOEVER IT IS THAT WINS, AND I THINK IT
WILL BE ME BUT WHOEVER THAT WINS, I WILL SUPPORT IN THIS
ELECTION CAMPAIGN. SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DEFEAT
BRUCE RAUNER. HE HAS BEEN A MISERABLE FAILURE
FOR WORKING FAMILIES. NO HEALTHCARE, NO JOB CREATION,
NO EDUCATION FUNDING, BRUCE RAUNER’S GOT TO GO.
>>HE DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION DID HE?
>>YOU SAID YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE —
>>THIS IS COMING FROM DANIEL WHO HAS ACCEPTED $350,000 FROM
PEOPLE WHO DO BUSINESS WITH THE STATE AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF DOLLARS FROM SPRINGFIELD INSIDERS INCLUDING MICHAEL
MADIGAN IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND VOTED FOR
MICHAEL MADIGAN FOR SPEAKER. AND THIS IS DANIEL WHO IS
PUTTING FORWARD A RECORD SAYING THAT HE WANTS TO BE A MIDDLE
CLASS GOVERNOR BUT YOU HAVE NOT STOOD UP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
PENSIONS YOU HAVE TAKEN MONEY AWAY FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO GIVE
IT TO CHARTER SCHOOLS. ARE YOU NOT WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.
>>I WILL NOT BE LECTURED ON WHO IS I PROGRESSIVE BY A GUY WHO IS
PROFITING OFF OFFSHORE [INAUDIBLE]
WE CAN TALK LATER BUT GENUINELY AMAZING WHEN J.B. PRITZKER TRIES
TO LECTURE ME ABOUT MY CAMPAIGN FUNDING, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
J.B. PRITZKER HAS GIVEN $63 MILLION TO HIS CAMPAIGN FUND IN
AN EFFORT TO BUY THIS ELECTION AND EFORT TO MAKE MICHAEL
MADIGAN HAPPY BECAUSE HE WANTS HIS MONEY THAT BADLY AND HE
CANNOT PULL AWAY IN THE POLLS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE
SHOULD NOT EMULATE TRUMP AND RAUNER AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE AN
AUCTION BUT ELECTION. AND I’M PROUD THAT I’M HERE AT
ALL. WHEN I ANNOUNCED MY CAMPAIGN
ALMOST A YEAR AGO PEOPLE DID NOT THINK I WOULD BE ON THE STAGE
WITH THESE TWO GUYS BUT WE ARE.>>LET’S MOVE IT ALONG.
>>AND STEPPED UP TO MAKE US HAVE A CHANCE IN A RACE BECAUSE
THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS ARE HUNGRY FOR A MIDDLE CLASS
PROGRESSIVE.>>CHRIS KENNEDY THE NEW SCHOOL
FUNDING PROGRAM FORMULA REQUIRES $350 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE
STATE. WHERE WOULD YOU GET THAT MONEY?
>>IT’S 5% OF WHAT WE’RE DOING AND IT’S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
IF WE WANT TO FULLY FUND OUR SCHOOLS AND THERE IS NOTHING
MORE IMPORTANT WHEN I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN THE 80s MY
FRIENDS AND I WE MOVED TO WHERE THE JOBS WERE.
AND NOW THE JOBS MOVE TO WHERE THE HIGHLY EDUCATED YOUNG PEOPLE
ARE. IF WE GIVE THE WORLD HIGHLY
EDUCATED YOUNG PEOPLE THE WORLD WILL GIVE US ITS JOBS, MONEY,
CAPITAL FOLLOWS TALENT AND IN ILLINOIS 75% OF THE KIDS WHO
GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL NEED REMEDIAL EDUCATION SO WE ARE
FAILING IN JOB NUMBER ONE. HOW DO WE FUND THE SCHOOLS?
I THINK WE HAVE TO GO AFTER THE INTERNET SELLERS WHO ARE, I
THINK STEALING FROM IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS AND THERE’S BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS THERE. AND GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO
LIVE IN OTHER STATES AND TAKE INCOME HERE AND DO NOT PAY THEIR
FAIR SHARE. I THINK WE HAVE TO GO AFTER THE
PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM IN OUR STATE.
AND ABANDON IT. AND THE ROLE OF THE STATE
GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TO FILE UNDER VALUATION COMPLAINTS
AGAINST THE LARGEST BUILDINGS AND THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES
WHERE PEOPLE LIKE JOE BERRIOS SIDED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
GIVEN HIM CAMPAIGN DONATIONS. IF WE DO THOSE THINGS WE WILL
NOT GOING TO PUT OUR ECONOMY AT RISK AND OVERBURDEN OUR
TAXPAYERS BUT GOING AFTER PEOPLE WHO LIVE ELSEWHERE.
>>AND A VIEWER QUESTION. FIXING THE BUDGET IN ILLINOIS IT
WILL TAKE COURAGE AND INVOLVE NECESSARY CUTS TO PROGRAMS AND
ADDITIONAL REVENUE. WHAT UNPOPULAR BUT NECESSARY
SPECIFIC STEPS ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE ON THE CUT AND THE
REVENUE SIDE THAT YOUR OTHER DEMOCRATIC OPPONENTS ARE NOT?
J.B. PRITZKER?>>WELL, AS I’VE SAID I AM IN
FAVOR OF A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX AND IN FAVOR OF US
LEGALIZING MARIJUANA AND TAXING IT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL BRING IN $350 MILLION TO $700 MILLION OF
REVENUE TO THE STATE AND LET’S TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET BUT THERE
ARE THREE ASPECTS OF THE BUDGET. A THIRD ASPECT OF IS GROWTH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE JOB GROWTH IN THE STATE TO INCREASE REVENUES
WITHOUT HAVING TO RAISE TAXES. BUT UNDER BRUCE RAUNER.
>>HOW ABOUT IN TERMS OF CUTS? WHAT CUTS WOULD YOU MAKE?
>>LET’S REMIND OURSELVES THAT THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR THAT
WE’VE GOT TODAY IS THE BIGGEST DEFICIT SPENDER IN THE HISTORY
OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. AND THE RESULT OF THAT WAS THAT
LAST YEAR WE PAID ALMOST $1 BILLION IN THAT 12% BACKLOG
INTEREST RATE THAT HE CAUSED AND FEES.
THAT IS A BILLION DOLLARS. IMAGINE WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH A
BILLION DOLLARS IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM?
IMAGINE WHAT YOU COULD DO IN OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND WE OUGHT
TO BRING THAT IN. I THINK WE NEED UNIVERSAL
HEALTHCARE BUT THESE THINGS TAKE SHOULDER TO THE WHEEL YOU NEED
REVENUE, EXPENDITURES AND GROWTH TO MAKE A BUDGET WORK.
NO CUTS?>>HERE IS HOW I WOULD DO IT.
I’VE SPENT 20 YEARS IN THE EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT ARENA AND
FOCUSED ON TRYING TO RAISE UP PARTICULARLY OUR AT RISK KIDS
THE 25% OF KIDS IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN THE STATE OF
ILLINOIS THAT ARE NOT READY FOR KINDERGARTEN.
WHEN WE HELP THEM PREPARE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE UNIVERSAL
PRESCHOOL WHICH I FAVOR AND QUALITY CHILDCARE IT WILL SAVE
MONEY IN OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM. SAME THING WITH PREVENTION IN
THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. YOU GO AFTER TYPE 2 DIABETES YOU
CAN SAVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
>>DANIEL BISS, UNPOPULAR BUT NECESSARY STEPS REGARDING
REVENUE OR CUTS?>>WELL, I THINK WE NEED A TAX
SYSTEM DESIGNED FOR A MODERN ECONOMY.
I SUPPORT TAXING FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS AND CLOSING THE
CARRIED INTEREST OR THE WRUS BRUCE TAX LOOPHOLE.
WHY DO I SAY THAT? BECAUSE OUR ECONOMY IS
TRANSFORMED IN THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES.
MORE AND MORE OF OUR ECONOMY IS IN THE FINANCIAL SECTOR BUT THEY
DO NOT WANT TO TAX THAT WHICH MEANS THEY WILL NOT HAVE A
BUDGET THAT WORKS OR ELSE THEY WILL HAVE A TAX SYSTEM THAT
OVERBURDENS WORKING FAMILIES.>>CHRIS KENNEDY YOU WERE
SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO?>>IT’S OF THE WORST FORM OF
POLITICAL PANDERING. TO SAY THAT NO ONE HAS TO MAKE
ANY SACRIFICE WE ARE GOING TO FULLY FUND EVERY PROGRAM AND NO
ONE HAS TO WORRY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TAX FINANCIAL
TRANSACTIONS. IT GIVES EVERYBODY FALSE HOPE
AND THE WORST THEN A DEMOCRAT CAN DO.
TELL THE TRUTH. WE OUGHT TO BRING PEOPLE INTO
THE COMPLEXITIES OF GOVERNMENT POLICY AND NOT OFFER A SOLUTION
THAT CANNOT BE HAD. LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT HE IS
SUGGESTING. HE IS SUGGESTING THAT WE GO TO
THE EXCHANGES WHERE WE’RE TRANSACTIONS ARE OCCURRING
BETWEEN PEOPLE BUYING CORN OR SOY BEANS AND TAX EVERYONE OF
THE TRANSACTIONS. THOSE TRANCE TRANSACTIONS OCCUR
BETWEEN A BUYER AND A SELLER AND A COMPUTER MATCHES WHEN YOU SAY
I BOUGHT 10,000 BUSHELS AND I SAY I SOLD 10,000 BUSHELS.
AND THAT MATCHING ENGINE IS IN CHICAGO.
BUT THERE ARE DUPLICATES ALL AROUND THE UNITED STATES.
IF HE TRIES TO TAX THAT ON LASALLE STREET OR WHACKER DRIVE
WHERE IT’S MORE PROPERLY LOCATED THOSE EXCHANGES WILL USE THE ONE
THAT THEY HAVE LOCATED IN ATLANTA OR WYOMING.
AND SAY THE TRANSACTION OCCURRED THERE WHICH IS TECHNICALLY TRUE
AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DERIVE NEW ECONOMIC REVENUE FOR
THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. HE IS PROMISING SOMETHING THAT
HE CANNOT DELIVER WHICH IS POLITICAL PANDERING.
AND WORSE THAN THAT THREE YEARS AGO HE PASSED A BILL WHICH HE
SUPPORTED NAMED — AIMED AT A SINGLE COMPANY THE
CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE TO LOWER THEIR TAXES AND GAVE THEM
THE TAX BREAK THAT HE SAYS HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY.
AND AS Mr. PRITZKER SAID YOU DON’T KNOW WHO DANIEL IS.
NOT TODAY AND NOT THEN.>>HOW ABOUT THAT DANIEL BISS,
BECAUSE –>>LONG DIATRIBE AND I FIND IT
AMAZING.>>WOULDN’T THE BUSINESSES
LEAVE –>>IF THE TAX WAS IMPOSED?
AND WOULDN’T FEDERAL LAW BE REQUIRED TO BE CHANGED FOR WHAT
YOU’RE PROPOSING TO TAKE PLACE?>>NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT
WOULD. LET ME POINT OUT THAT CHRIS HAS
NOW TWICE ON TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT TOPICS ACCUSED ME OF
DOING THE WORST POSSIBLE THINGS OF WHAT A DEMOCRATIC CAN DO.
BUT ANYHOW, LISTEN, I TAKE THAT CONCERN SERIOUSLY.
I TAKE THE CONCERN OF THE EXCHANGE SERIOUSLY AND THE
IMPASSE OF OUR TAX DECISION SERIOUSLY WHY WE HAVE TO SIT
DOWN AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
IT IS NOT AN IMPOSSIBLE THING BUT WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU
TWO GUYS WHO ARE EXPERTING HELPING THE WEALTHY AVOID TAXES
IT’S IMPOSSIBLE WE SHOULD NOT TRY.
AND TELLING YOU IN MARCH OF 2018, 10 MONTHS BEFORE EITHER
WOULD BECOME GOVERNOR THEY ARE TAKING REVENUE OPTIONS OFF THE
TABLE. AND THEN THEY ARE CALLING ME
IRRESPONSIBLE AND THEY ARE TAKING REVENUE OPTIONS OFF THE
TABLE. LET’S FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE IT
NOT CONSIGN OURSELVES TO A TAX SYSTEM BUILT FOR AN ECONOMY THAT
WE DON’T HAVE ANYMORE.>>RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU AGREE
QUESTIONS. AND QUESTION ONE: SHOULD JOE
BERRIOS BE REELECTED AS COOK COUNTY ASSESSOR.
RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU BELIEVE YES.
>>I’M NOT REVEALING WHO I VOTEDDED FOR OUR SUPPORTING IN
THAT RACE BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES WE ARE RUNNING ONE OURSELVES.
>>IF YOU CANNOT TAKE A POSITION ON WHETHER JOE BERRIOS SHOULD BE
REELECTED A GUY MAINTAINING A SYSTEM THAT IS A DEFACTO
VIOLATION OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IF YOU CANNOT SHOW
THE COURAGE, THE COURAGE IF YOU CANNOT TAKE THE COURAGE TO TAKE
A POSITION ON THAT RACE YOU SHOULD NOT BE THE GOVERNOR OF
THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. YOU HAVE NO WAY TO —
OR THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. [ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>>PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND…>>GUYS!
>>WE CAN LET THESE TWO GUYS KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL 8:00 WHO
SCAMMED THE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM WORSE OR WE CAN PICK SOMEONE WHO
HAS NOT SCAMMED THE SYSTEM WHO HAS LEGISLATION TO FIX THIS.
>>IN SPRINGFIELD AND NEVER FIGURED OUT THAT THE PROPERTY
TAX SYSTEM WAS A SCAM. SEVEN YEARS AND NOT CHANGING IT.
>>WOULD YOU SIGN A BILL CREATING AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD
IN CHICAGO. RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL THREE. SHOULD MICHAEL MADIGAN STEP DOWN
AS HEAD OF THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>>I THINK HE SHOULD STEP BACK DURING THE PERIOD WHICH THERE
ARE INVESTIGATIONS INTO SEXUAL HARASSMENT GOING ON.
>>AND I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPLETE INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION OF HIM, HIS OFFICE, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF
ILLINOIS SO WE CAN DETERMINE WHO THE PERPETRATORS ARE IN THE
SEXUAL HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS. IT TOOK TOO LONG FOR HIM TO
IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM TO GO AFTER IT AND NOW WE NEED THAT
INDEPENDENT INFORMATION AND WE HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE IF HE IS A
PERPETRATOR OR ALLOWED THIS TO GO ON.
>>RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK MICHAEL MADIGAN SHOULD LOSE HIS
POSITION AS HOUSE SPEAKER? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK
YES?>>THAT HAS BEEN CALLED INTO
REAL QUESTION. AND I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE NEED TO GIVE IT A TOUGH LOOK BUT AS A
MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HE LOST MY CONFIDENCE IN HIS
ABILITY TO LEAD OUR PARTY. HE OUT TO BE TERMED OUT.
>>HE HELPED DANIEL BISS GET ELECTED.
>>HE SHOULD BE TERMED OUT.>>DANIEL BISS VOTED FOR MICHAEL
MADIGAN FOR SPEAKER. ACCEPTED HIS MONEY TO GET
ELECTED. AND HAS BEEN RUNNING RAN THE
SUPER PACT THAT MICHAEL MADIGAN SETUP IN 2016.
IT SEEMS TO ME ONCE AGAIN, YOU DON’T KNOW WHO DANIEL BISS
REALLY IS.>>THERE ARE —
>>THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT I CANNOT LET GO UNADDRESSED
BECAUSE IT IS BANANAS.>>NOT ANOTHER SPEECH, PLEASE.
>>HOW LONG DO I HAVE, CHRIS?>>I DON’T KNOW BUT YOU’VE TAKEN
SO MUCH.>>BUSINESS BUSINESS THERE ARE
REPORTS THAT YOU ARE WORKING TO OUST MICHAEL MADIGAN AS CHAIR
ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT HE WILL BLOCK YOUR AGENDA THAT THE
WORKING RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE NONEXISTENT?
>>I WANT TO ADDRESS JB’S POINT. I AM A DEMOCRAT.
AND THAT MEANS THAT I WORK WITH DEMOCRATS IN GENERAL ELECTIONS.
I WORK WITH DEMOCRATS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND BRUCE RAUNER IN
MY OWN ELECTIONS. I WILL WORK WITH EVERY
DEMOCRATIC WHEN I AM THE NOMINEE IN 2018 TO DEFEAT BRUCE RAUNER.
OF COURSE I DO. JB DOESN’T GET THAT BECAUSE HE
WAS NOT SURE IN 2012 IF HE WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA
FOR REELECTION UNTIL HE SAW WHO WON THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION.
THE QUESTION IS NOT ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO WORKS WITH
DEMOCRATS? THE QUESTION IS: WHAT WING OF
THE PARTY ARE YOU FROM? THE MICHAEL MADIGAN PRITZKER
WING AND THE INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE AND I’VE ALWAYS BEEN
A FIRM MEMBER OF THE INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE PARTY
WHY I’M SUPPORTED BY PROGRESSIVE GROUPS IN THE PRIMARY.
>>ON THE STAGE BUT YOU VOTED FOR MICHAEL MADIGAN.
>>WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MICHAEL MADIGAN, J.B.
PRITZKER?>>HE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP.
I AM A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR AND AS DANIEL BISS SAID, IN A
GENERAL ELECTION AS DEMOCRATS WE ARE ALL END UP RUNNING TOGETHER.
>>CHRIS KENNEDY YOU HAD A CONFUSED EXPRESSION.
>>YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER MICHAEL MADIGAN WHO BASICALLY IS VETO
AUTHORITY ON ANY LEGISLATION GOING THROUGH BOTH HOUSES
BECAUSE IT HAS TO PASS ROLE HE TAKES THAT ROLE AND BECOMES
CHAIRMAN OF THE PARTY THOSE ROLES WERE SEPARATE AND NOW THEY
ARE COMBINED IN A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL FROM THAT PLACE HE
HELPS CHOOSE THE HEAD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF COOK COUNTY.
JOE BERRIOS. JOE BERRIOS IS HEAD OF THE COOK
COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND SLATES HIMSELF AS THE COOK
COUNTY ASSESSOR AND BECOMES THE ASSESSOR.
NOW MICHAEL MADIGAN APPEALS TAXES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO JOE
BERRIOS WHO HE PUT IN THAT JOB. AND THAT OFFICE THAT HE HAS FOR
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY? IS THE VERY OFFICE THAT J.B.
PRITZKER USED TO MAKE TELEPHONE CALLS AT JOE BERRIOS’ DESK AND
USING JOE BERRIOS’ PHONE.>>QUICK RESPONSE AND THEN WE
HAVE TO MOVE ON.>>THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE.
WE HAVE SERIOUS FLAWS IN THE TAX SYSTEM IN THE PROPERTY TAX
ASSESSMENT SYSTEM IN COOK COUNTY.
THAT’S TRUE. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT FOR PEOPLE, THAT WE HAVE THE MOST
UP-TO-DATE FORMULAS SO PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO APPEAL THEIR TAXES.
THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO GO AFTER AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BY PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN THE LEGISLATURE.
>>WHAT PARTY DO WE WANT TO HAVE, RIGHT?
CHRIS BEGAN HIS CAMPAIGN BY GOING TO TRY TO BE THE CANDIDATE
OF THE MADIGAN WING OF THE PARTY AND THEY SAID NO BECAUSE THEY
WANTED PRITZKER AND HE CAME TO PROGRESSIVES AND WANTED TO BE
THE PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE AND.>>OWE [INAUDIBLE]
>>THIS IS THE J.B. PRITZKER IS MICHAEL MADIGAN’S CANDIDATE AND
IF ELECTED HE WILL BE MICHAEL MADIGAN’S FIRSTHAND AS GOVERNOR.
>>GENTLEMEN GIVEN HOW MUCH MONEY THAT IS GOING INTO THE
RACE ON THE PART OF ALL OF YOU, SHOULD THESE ELECTIONS BE
PUBLICLY FUNDED?>>I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD GIVE US MUCH MORE FAIR AND INCLUSIVE
SYSTEM IN THE GOVERNMENT. I DO NOT THINK MONEY IS
NECESSARILY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IN POLITICS.
IT CAN LIFT UP ISSUES AND IT CAN EDUCATE THE VOTERS.
IT CAN BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE IN OUR STATE COMPLICATED
AND NEW ANSWERED ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AWARE OF IN
A DEMOCRACY. BUT WHEN YOU USE MONEY NOT TO
LIFT UP ISSUES TO SHINE LIGHT BUT TO BLOT OUT ANY OTHER
CAMPAIGN WHEN YOU USE MONEY TO CONTROL THE AIRWAVES AND TO TAKE
AWAY THE NOTION OF A CONFLICT OF AIDEA AND IDEALS THEN I THINK
MONEY HAS A CORROSIVE ROLE IN POLITICS.
AND THAT IS FROM THE J.B. PRITZKER CAMPAIGN.
>>THERE SHOULD BE MATCHING CONTRIBUTIONS.
LET’S FACE IT. LET’S LOOK BACK TO DECEMBER OF
2016 WHEN BRUCE RAUNER WROTE A CHECK FOR $50 MILLION INTO HIS
OWN CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT AND ACCEPTED TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS FROM THE KOCH BROTHERS. DESTROY LABOR UNIONS, LOWER
WAGES IN THE STATE AND LOWER WORKPLACE SAFETY AND I THINK
THAT IS WRONG. JUST LIKE SENATOR PAUL SIMON
ONCE SAID ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM WE NEED IT BUT WE CANNOT
DISARM IN THE PROCESS OF IT. WHEN I AM ELECTED WE ARE GOING
TO GET CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM AND MAKE SHOULD HAVE THAT WE
HAVE A MATCHING SYSTEM.>>CAN I RESPOND.
>>WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND GET VIEWER INVOLVEMENT.
>>THAT SMALL DONOR MATCHING BILL THAT IS MY BILL THAT IS
WHAT I’VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR AND WE NEED SO WE DO NOT HAVE AN
AUCTION INSTEAD OF ELECTION.>>AND THE QUESTION IS: WHAT
ARE YOUR PLANS FOR INCREASING RENEWABLE ENERGY PRODUCTION FOR
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USERS?
DANIEL BISS I BEGIN WITH YOU.>>I’M PROUD TO BE ENDORSED BY
THE SIERRA CLUB I’M FIGHTING FOR EXPANSION OF SOLAR AND WIND THE
ILLINOIS SHOULD BE A LEADER AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT
AND I WILL FIGHT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THE TWO GUYS HAVE
INVESTMENTS IN DIRTY ENERGY, DAKOTA PIPELINE IF WE WANT
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO EXPAND RENEWABLE ENERGY VOTE FOR
SOMEBODY WHO IS FOR IT.>>DO YOU HAVE INVESTMENTS IN
DIRTY ENERGY?>>I HAD THEM AT ONE MOMENT IN
ONE TIME AND I DIVESTED MYSELF OF ALL OF MY INTERESTS IN THE
PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES DISCLOSED ON MY FINANCIAL
DISCLOSURE FORMS. THE WAY TO BRING ABOUT RENEWABLE
ENERGY IS TO DO WHAT WE DID AT THE MERCHANDISE MART IT BECAME
THE WORLD’S LARGEST LED CERTIFIED BUILDING.
THE HOTEL ABOVE IT, THE FIRST HOTEL IN ILLINOIS AND THE
LARGEST HOTEL IN THE UNITED STATES TO BE LEAD CERTIFIED.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO DRIVE DOWN
GREENHOUSE GASES. ALMOST ALL ENERGY IS USED IN THE
BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE GOVERNMENT IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE
LARGEST USER. AND THE STATE OF ILLINOIS
DOESN’T EVEN HAVE AN ACCURATE INVENTORY OF THE BUILDINGS IT
OWNS OR OCCUPIES. WHATEVER THEY ARE WE SHOULD PUT
THE STATE GOVERNMENT ON A TRACK TO BE FULLY SUSTAINABLE BY 2025
AND THE ENTIRE STATE ON FULLY SUSTAINABLE ENERGY SOURCES BY
2045. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
>>J.B. PRITZKER HOW ABOUT IT, RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR COMMERCIAL
AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES?>>WE NEED TO MOVE TO 100% CLEAN
ENERGY USE AND TO BEGIN AS I DID TO HELP SUPPORT THE CREATION OF
BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
THE CLEAN ENERGY TRUST SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORTED FROM THE
BEGINNING HELPING PEOPLE START COMPANIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON
CLEAN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT. REMEMBER HERE IN THE STATE, WE
HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT AT ARGONNE NATIONAL LABORATORY AN IMPORTANT
RESEARCH FACILITY FOCUSED ON BATTERY TECHNOLOGY THAT IS
CRITICAL IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING 100% CLEAN
ENERGY IN THE STATE AND IT’S CREATING JOBS IN THE STATE.
AND AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS PEOPLE ARE BEING DISPLACED
ON THEIR JOBS. IOWA TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT
WINDMILLS IN AND HAS DONE WELL. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS OVER YEARS IN THE COAL INDUSTRY ARE
BENEFICIARIES OF OUR MOVE TO 100% CLEAN ENERGY.
>>AND A RELATED QUESTION: WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO PROTECT LAKE
MICHIGAN AND VARIOUS RIVERS FROM POLLUTION AND CHANGING WEATHER
PATTERNS? ARE THE CURRENT STANDARDS
REGARDING WATER QUALITY ADEQUATE.
CHRIS KENNEDY?>>I THINK THERE IS A LOT WE CAN
DO TO PROTECT THE GREATEST NATURAL RESOURCE WE HAVE WHICH
IS LAKE MICHIGAN. WE CAN PROTECT LAKE MILITIA GAB
AND OUR NETWORK OF RIVERS AND STREAMS AND WILD AREAS AS WELL.
ALL OF THOSE ARE UNDER ATTACK BY DECISIONS IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION TO DEFUND THE THOUSANDS OF INDEPENDENT
NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT SURROUND ALL OF THE GREAT
LAKES. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY
ARE DOING IN INDIANA WHERE THEY HAVE CREATED A BILATERAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA TO PROTECT THE GREAT LAKES THAT IS
THE LEADERSHIP THAT A GOVERNOR SHOULD SHOW.
AND GOVERNOR BRUCE RAUNER HAS BEEN SILENT AROUND PROTECTING
THE GREAT LAKES. AS THE ASIAN CARP MAKES ITS WAY
UP THE ILLINOIS RIVER HE HAS DONE NOTHING TO PREVENT THAT AND
SHOW LEADERSHIP ON AN ISSUE THAT IS SUPER APPARENT TO EVERYBODY
WHO IS PAYING ATTENTION.>>DANIEL BISS PROTECTING LAKE
MICHIGAN?>>IT’S CRUCIAL AND I’M PROUD OF
THE SIERRA CLUB ENDORSEMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR CONFIDENCE THAT
I AM THE RIGHT GOVERNOR TO DO THAT.
BRUCE RAUNER CANCELED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT
WOULD HAVE HELPED STOP THE FLOW OF ASIAN CARP.
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE STATE INVESTMENTS AWAY FROM
DIRTY INDUSTRY SO THE PIPELINES ARE NOT BUILT TO CONTINUE TO POE
LAWSUIT OUR WATERWAYS AND HAVE SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE THAT
DOES NOT POLLUTE OUR WATERWAYS AND FINALLY, WE NEED TO INVEST
IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY PLACES IN ILLINOIS WHERE WE ARE POISONING
OTHER OWN CHILDREN.>>J.B. PRITZKER HOW ABOUT IT?
>>THE GREAT LAKES ARE A VITAL NATURAL RESOURCE.
I MEAN FRESH WATER WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE IT.
AND TWO IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN EPA IN ILLINOIS THAT IS PROTECTING OUR
WATERWAYS. WE DON’T HAVE THAT UNDER BRUCE
RAUNER. AND THE SECOND THING IS REMEMBER
THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS ALTHOUGH THEY ARE IN
CHARGE OF THE STATE, THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF
ILLINOIS HAS A GREAT DEAL OF POWER IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
WITH OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS BUT UNDER BRUCE RAUNER, OVER THE
LAST THREE YEARS, SENATOR DURBIN HAS SAID THAT OVER THE LAST
THREE YEARS, HE HAS BEEN — HE HAS RECEIVED CALLS FROM BRUCE
RAUNER ONLY THREE TIMES. THREE TIMES IN THREE YEARS.
WE NEED A GOVERNOR WHO IS GOING TO STAND UP AND PROTECT OUR
STATE THAT GREAT LAKES BASIN INITIATIVE THAT DONALD TRUMP
TRIED TO DEFUND, WE NEED A GOVERNOR WHO WOULD STAND UP AND
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BUT INSTEAD HE IS A FAILURE.
>>THE THREE OF YOU HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF SHOTS AT GOVERNOR BRUCE
RAUNER TONIGHT. HAS THE GOVERNOR DONE ANYTHING
RIGHT? HAS THE GOVERNOR DONE ANYTHING
WELL FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVES? DANIEL BISS?
>>WELL, I THINK THAT HE HAS SET GOOD GOALS AND GONE ABOUT
ACHIEVING THEM THE WRONG WAY. FOR EXAMPLE, HE SET A GOOD GOAL
ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM DECREASING OUR PRISON POPULATION
AND THEN HE HAD A TASK FORCE COME UP WITH GOOD STRONG
RECOMMENDATIONS. AND HE WALKED AWAY FROM THE
POLITICALLY DIFFICULT ONES.>>HAS THE GOVERNOR DONE
ANYTHING WELL IN YOUR BOOK, J.B. PRITZKER?
>>HE SIGNED HB40 THE ABORTION RIGHTS BILL THAT I SUPPORTED
SIGNIFICANTLY. HE HAD TO BE PRESSURED INTO IT,
HOWEVER. IT TOOK —
I HAVE THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE PERSONAL PACT THE STATE’S
PRO-CHOICE PACT AND WE WORK TOGETHER IN THE PRO-CHOICE
COMMUNITY FOR DECADES NOW, WE WORK TOGETHER TO PRESSURE THE
GOVERNOR TO FINALLY SIGN THAT LEGISLATION, RELUCTANTLY.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>>CHRIS KENNEDY?>>I HAVE TO SAY THE PROTECTION
OF PEOPLE’S RIGHTS TO CHOOSE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, STANDS
OUT AS MAYBE THE SINGULAR THING THAT GOVERNOR BRUCE RAUNER HAS
DONE THAT IS ADMIRABLE. BUT THERE’S SO MUCH THAT HE HAS
DONE THAT HE IS TODAY THE WORST SITTING GOVERNOR IN ALL OF THE
UNITED STATES. AND THE WORST GOVERNOR EVER TO
GOVERN ILLINOIS INCLUDING THOSE GOVERNS WHO HAVE GONE TO JAIL.
HE IS WORSE THAN ALL OF THEM.>>I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A
PERSONAL QUESTION OF EACH YOU YOU.
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A FORMIDABLE EXPERIENCE IN YOUR
LIFE. J.B. PRITZKER BEGINNING WITH
YOU?>>GOSH.
AS A YOUNG PERSON UNFORTUNATELY MY MOTHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC.
AND PASSED WAY WHEN I WAS 17 AND MY FATHER PASSED WAY WHEN I WAS
7 AND THE EXPERIENCE OF LIVING THROUGH THAT WITH MY BROTHER AND
SISTER FIGHTING THROUGH THAT AND DEALING WITH THE CHALLENGES AND
RECOGNIZING WHAT A HERO MY MOTHER REALLY WAS FIGHTING THAT
STRUGGLE. THAT IS EXTRAORDINARILY
FORMATIVE TO ME. BECAUSE HONESTLY ONE OF THE VERY
REASONS THAT I AM ENGAGED IN PUBLIC SERVICE BECAUSE MY MOTHER
TOO WAS ENGAGE FEDERAL PUBLIC SERVICE AND I WATCHED HER
STRUGGLE WITH ADDICTION. AND I DON’T WANT OTHERS TO HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THAT AND I WANT TO LIVE UP TO HER VALUES THE THINGS
SHE SET TO US ABOUT FIGHTING FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE AND INCLUSION.
>>MY STORY IS SIMILAR TO Mr. PRITZKER’S AND THAT IS
UNFORTUNATE AND THAT A SOCIETY LIKE OURS PRODUCES THESE OUT
COMES. I THINK ABOUT MY FATHER’S DEATH
AT AN EARLY AGE AND I KNOW THAT THE BULLET THAT KILLS THE FATHER
WOUNDS THE CHILD. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS
LIKE TO GROW UP IN A CHAOTIC ENVIRONMENT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO
PROCESS THAT. BUT MORE DRAMATICALLY, I SAW
SIBLINGS STRUGGLE WITH IT AS WELL AND I LOST ONE BROTHER TO
DRUG ADDICTION AND ANOTHER WAS ADDICTED TO HEROIN FOR A DECADE.
AND I SAW THE RAF VISHING EFFECTS OF UNTREATED MENTAL
ILLNESS AND THERE’S EMPATHY THAT COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ON THEIR OWN AND WE HAVE A ROLE AS
A BIG FAMILY AND AS A GOVERNMENT TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS WHO ARE
SUFFERING.>>DANIEL BISS?
>>I’M INCREDIBLY HAPPY THAT MY WIFE KAREN IS HERE AND I THINK
BACK TO THE DAY APRIL FIRST, 2005 THAT WE MET IN THE AUSTIN
TEXAS AIRPORT. AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE
COMPLETELY. AND KAREN HAS TAUGHT ME SO MUCH
ABOUT — THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT
WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG IN THE WORLD IT DOESN’T MATTER IF
IT LOOKS BIG OR INTIMIDATING OR TOO MUCH, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT
YOU CAN TO TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER AND EVERYDAY I CARRY THAT LESSON
WITH ME AND FEEL LUCKY FOR WHAT HAPPENED ON APRIL FIRST, 205.
>>GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU, J.B. PRITZKER, CHRIS KENNEDY AND
DANIEL BISS AND THANKS TO THE CITY CLUB OF CHICAGO AND THANKS
TO THE AUDIENCE ON WTTW. AND WE WILL BE BACK TO WRAP
THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.>>AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS
WEDNESDAY NIGHT. DON’T FORGET TO STAY CONNECTED
WITH US BY SIGNING UP FOR OUR DAILY E ALERT AND JOIN US
TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M. WE HEAR FROM THREE DEMOCRATS
VYING AND WHY HOUSE SPEAKER MICHAEL MADIGAN IS AT WAR WITH
SOME PROGRESSIVE MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY.
AND FOR ALL OF US HERE AT “CHICAGO TONIGHT” I’M PHIL PONCE
AND I THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. GOOD NIGHT.
[♪♪♪] [APPLAUSE]

15 thoughts on “2018 Illinois Governor’s Race Forum: Democratic Candidates

  1. Kennedy clearly won the debate. Bit Biss, whom I'm voting for, came a strong second. JB didn't look good at all at this debate

  2. JB and Biss are NOT Christian, they hate Christianity. Religion is important because politicians should reflect the culture of the People AND the people can hold them to their claimed religious values. For example, if voters ignore religion and vote for a satanist, how can voters later be upset if the satanist politician passes evil laws, or lies to them. They can't.

  3. These guys are a bunch of big gov't thugs. A bunch of selfish sociopaths peddling an old, tired, stale, and garbage big government ideology. What a joke Illinois! People from Illinois must be dumb as shit if this is all they can produce.

  4. Why did the moderator only ask Daniel Biss about Gun Control ?- He didn't ask the other 2 anything relating to this hot-button issue at all. This is an issue I care deeply about – I liked Daniel Biss's answer, but I would like to have heard the stances of Kennedy and Pritzger. Phil Ponce failed the citizens of Illinois by not following up properly.

  5. You don’t need ‘offshore’ trusts or companies to benefit charities here in IL. JB is a businessman, he is aware of who created these off shore accounts and who it benefits. It is created to shelter his wealth and protect his family from taxing entities.

  6. It does not matter who becomes the governor. Nothing will change as long as Mike Madigan is Speaker of the House.

  7. Regardless of some of the negative remarks to each other, this was one of the few good debates presented in years. It is also obvious these guys are smart, especially, Kennedy, they present well with integrity. It is sad we have been exposed to the ignorance, nastiness and bad behavior of Trump. There are many in this country who are proud of 'ORANGE HEAD' and his horrific, bulling and insulting character traits; there is nothing to be proud. One of the reasons I love this state/city is because of the classy, elegant smart people and outstanding diverse communities and cultures, they enhance one's life. We need a governor to help bring people together rather than create disorder, chaos and division. We all have a great deal of work to do, together. We live in a fantastic state, let's do better by it and it's people.

  8. Mike Madigan runs Illinois regardless who the Governor is !!!! Madigan and the Assembly in Springfield work as one unified corrupt organization, doesn't matter who the Governor is…… this whole thing is a joke, sadly the people of Illinois will pay the price for this corrupt set-up……

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